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		<title>Comment on What is this all about? by Anthony Anarchyy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony Anarchyy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 04:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There we go, I&#039;m properly registered now :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There we go, I&#8217;m properly registered now <img src='http://www.anarchy.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on What is this all about? by Anthony Anarchyy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony Anarchyy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 04:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lol, &quot;And we all do conform. To say otherwise is to suggest that you will turn up naked at a movie cinema or happily scream and yell whenever people try to communicate with you- the layers of conformity run so deep that even the most conformist of us is likely to self-express in some way or another.&quot;

I go to McDonalds naked and when they refuse to serve me I throw things at them...and I am probably one of the most loudest people you&#039;ll ever meet, I&#039;m ruthless, I do what I want, when I want and nobody can change that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol, &#8220;And we all do conform. To say otherwise is to suggest that you will turn up naked at a movie cinema or happily scream and yell whenever people try to communicate with you- the layers of conformity run so deep that even the most conformist of us is likely to self-express in some way or another.&#8221;</p>
<p>I go to McDonalds naked and when they refuse to serve me I throw things at them&#8230;and I am probably one of the most loudest people you&#8217;ll ever meet, I&#8217;m ruthless, I do what I want, when I want and nobody can change that.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What role for violence in anarchy? by The Moderator</title>
		<link>http://www.anarchy.com.au/2010/05/18/what-role-for-violence-in-anarchy/comment-page-1/#comment-235</link>
		<dc:creator>The Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 13:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe. That doesn&#039;t make you a good Anarchist, it just makes you a less principled nihilist. To pass judgement and sentence on who and what is ugly breaks one of the basic tenets of anarchy. It pretty much aligns your moral code with that of the society enforcement agencies you profess to despise. Strange stuff, isn&#039;t it? Of course, the Apathetic Anarchist is more interested in trying to live a life true to the anarchy code, while being very careful to not raise a sweat while doing so.

That is not to take a &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candide&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Liebniz approach &lt;/a&gt;of saying that everything is as it should be but it does seem a good idea to have some concept of how things should be before you finish the job of changing them from the way that they are. Think of the mess the USofA created by starting the Iraq war without having a valid roadmap of how things should look if they &#039;won&#039;. Rebellion for rebellion sake is just violence, and not really Anarchy but it is easy to see how the misuse of the term in the English language would lead to a different conclusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe. That doesn&#8217;t make you a good Anarchist, it just makes you a less principled nihilist. To pass judgement and sentence on who and what is ugly breaks one of the basic tenets of anarchy. It pretty much aligns your moral code with that of the society enforcement agencies you profess to despise. Strange stuff, isn&#8217;t it? Of course, the Apathetic Anarchist is more interested in trying to live a life true to the anarchy code, while being very careful to not raise a sweat while doing so.</p>
<p>That is not to take a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candide" rel="nofollow">Liebniz approach </a>of saying that everything is as it should be but it does seem a good idea to have some concept of how things should be before you finish the job of changing them from the way that they are. Think of the mess the USofA created by starting the Iraq war without having a valid roadmap of how things should look if they &#8216;won&#8217;. Rebellion for rebellion sake is just violence, and not really Anarchy but it is easy to see how the misuse of the term in the English language would lead to a different conclusion.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What is this all about? by The Moderator</title>
		<link>http://www.anarchy.com.au/comment-page-1/#comment-234</link>
		<dc:creator>The Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 13:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting take on things. The absence of rebels doesn&#039;t necessitate a totalitarian society but it would certainly make for a boring one. If you get a moment, it would be worth sitting down with a copy of Albert Camus&#039; &quot;The Rebel&quot;. A lot of what he has to say might be of interest to you. And yes, Anarchy means different things to different people - that&#039;s part of its lure - but in its purist form, Anarchy actually holds as much rules as just about anything else. Try watching any society larger than a small settlement as it attempts to negotiate the no-man&#039;s land between individual rights and societal obligations (interpret that as the right of others for your activities to not impact on their enjoyment). Eventually you end up with committees and rules and obligations and requirements. All very un-anarchy to most people&#039;s minds. If that sounds trite, have a read of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.co.uk/Demanding-Impossible-Anarchism-Peter-Marshall/dp/0006862454&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Demanding the Impossible, a history of Anarchism&quot;&lt;/a&gt;, by Peter Marshall. It&#039;s a brick of a book but an easy read none-the-less. It lists a whole series of attempts at setting up societies based on anarchistic principles. 

So it makes sense that the individual needs to find their own comfort level in adopting the extent to which they will conform. And we all do conform. To say otherwise is to suggest that you will turn up naked at a movie cinema or happily scream and yell whenever people try to communicate with you- the layers of conformity run so deep that even the most conformist of us is likely to self-express in some way or another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting take on things. The absence of rebels doesn&#8217;t necessitate a totalitarian society but it would certainly make for a boring one. If you get a moment, it would be worth sitting down with a copy of Albert Camus&#8217; &#8220;The Rebel&#8221;. A lot of what he has to say might be of interest to you. And yes, Anarchy means different things to different people &#8211; that&#8217;s part of its lure &#8211; but in its purist form, Anarchy actually holds as much rules as just about anything else. Try watching any society larger than a small settlement as it attempts to negotiate the no-man&#8217;s land between individual rights and societal obligations (interpret that as the right of others for your activities to not impact on their enjoyment). Eventually you end up with committees and rules and obligations and requirements. All very un-anarchy to most people&#8217;s minds. If that sounds trite, have a read of <a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Demanding-Impossible-Anarchism-Peter-Marshall/dp/0006862454" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Demanding the Impossible, a history of Anarchism&#8221;</a>, by Peter Marshall. It&#8217;s a brick of a book but an easy read none-the-less. It lists a whole series of attempts at setting up societies based on anarchistic principles. </p>
<p>So it makes sense that the individual needs to find their own comfort level in adopting the extent to which they will conform. And we all do conform. To say otherwise is to suggest that you will turn up naked at a movie cinema or happily scream and yell whenever people try to communicate with you- the layers of conformity run so deep that even the most conformist of us is likely to self-express in some way or another.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What role for violence in anarchy? by Anthony Anarchyy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony Anarchyy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 04:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I choose the bad, if I decide someone doesn&#039;t deserve to live and I can change whether they live or not I will do it...there is so much ugly in this world they need people to get rid of it and I&#039;m the perfect guy to do it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I choose the bad, if I decide someone doesn&#8217;t deserve to live and I can change whether they live or not I will do it&#8230;there is so much ugly in this world they need people to get rid of it and I&#8217;m the perfect guy to do it&#8230;</p>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony Anarchyy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 04:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anarchy is the way I live, I don&#039;t follow any rules (also why I&#039;m on good behaviour) but without rebels we&#039;d just be living in a totalitarian society...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anarchy is the way I live, I don&#8217;t follow any rules (also why I&#8217;m on good behaviour) but without rebels we&#8217;d just be living in a totalitarian society&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on What is this all about? by The Moderator</title>
		<link>http://www.anarchy.com.au/comment-page-1/#comment-218</link>
		<dc:creator>The Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 16:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True but only in a superficial sense. Risk everything and you may lose everything. Risk nothing and you may be rewarded beyond your dreams. Not all good people receive good outcomes from an uncertain world, and many quite bad people revel in plenty. 

But the point &quot;Anarchy is a way of living,...&quot; is a good one. How will you choose to live your life? An evil government adminstrator or a brave rebel? A good government worker or a brutal and reckless perpetrator of random acts of violence? Anarchy is many things but it will not solve all problems - hopefully the big ones though!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True but only in a superficial sense. Risk everything and you may lose everything. Risk nothing and you may be rewarded beyond your dreams. Not all good people receive good outcomes from an uncertain world, and many quite bad people revel in plenty. </p>
<p>But the point &#8220;Anarchy is a way of living,&#8230;&#8221; is a good one. How will you choose to live your life? An evil government adminstrator or a brave rebel? A good government worker or a brutal and reckless perpetrator of random acts of violence? Anarchy is many things but it will not solve all problems &#8211; hopefully the big ones though!</p>
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		<title>Comment on What role for violence in anarchy? by The Moderator</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 16:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True. The odds are that we are all operating on a fixed use-by date, and at some stage the world will cease to exist for each of us. The Good, the Bad and the Ugly - we are all fated to die. Some will die a painful and agonising slow death of sickness or ill health, others through accidents reflecting the uncertainty of our existence in a chaotic world. Others will live long and peaceful lives, expiring quietly in their beds. 

How will you decide who is to meet their demise through an early end, caused by your actions? Will you choose the good or the bad? Will you adopt the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/03/02/3153543.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;John Galliano &lt;/a&gt;approach and simply get rid of the Ugly? 

Anarchy as a philosophy holds the individual as highest but in the context of the surrounding society. Talk of revolution does not necessarily require violence, and many amazing changes in society happen without random acts of violence. If you are prepared to kill, are you also prepared to die? What ends would you trade your life for?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True. The odds are that we are all operating on a fixed use-by date, and at some stage the world will cease to exist for each of us. The Good, the Bad and the Ugly &#8211; we are all fated to die. Some will die a painful and agonising slow death of sickness or ill health, others through accidents reflecting the uncertainty of our existence in a chaotic world. Others will live long and peaceful lives, expiring quietly in their beds. </p>
<p>How will you decide who is to meet their demise through an early end, caused by your actions? Will you choose the good or the bad? Will you adopt the <a href="http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/03/02/3153543.htm" rel="nofollow">John Galliano </a>approach and simply get rid of the Ugly? </p>
<p>Anarchy as a philosophy holds the individual as highest but in the context of the surrounding society. Talk of revolution does not necessarily require violence, and many amazing changes in society happen without random acts of violence. If you are prepared to kill, are you also prepared to die? What ends would you trade your life for?</p>
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		<title>Comment on What role for violence in anarchy? by The Moderator</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 16:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The origins of anarchy can be seen as a reaction against oppression, and most early writers saw governments and the police forces which enforce their laws, as being violent and oppressive. They also saw this as an unavoidable outcome, and were all the more forceful and violent in their acts as a result. This culminated in the torrid times leading up to the early twentieth century - a period of incredible anarchistic acts, including the assassination of royalty, government ministers and widespread bombings. Many of these anarchists detested the need to kill to achieve their ends - to the point where some would not go through with their attempt if innocent bystanders would be hurt. Their angst in the face of a decision to act with violence is a physical force that they had to deal with. 

So are random acts of violence a means to an end of just an end in themselves? If a policeman beats up a protester, does that justify your violent retribution against a completely different policeman? What about policewomen? Are they justifiable targets? How about the constable who shuffles the paperwork all day - are they a justifiable target?

If the police use batons to stop a demonstration - but don&#039;t hunt down the protesters in their homes or follow-up with any persecution, does that single act justify random acts of retribution? What about night-club doormen? They are most likely responsible for sorting out the rowdy and untamed, so are all doormen appropriate targets for violence? 

Who decides on the level of tit-for-tat? Is a beating worth a shooting? Is a water cannon equal to a knife? It is possible to argue yourself into lethargy but to ignore thinking about these points at all does not give recognition to the huge body of work put down by great activists, writers and thinkers in the anarchy movement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The origins of anarchy can be seen as a reaction against oppression, and most early writers saw governments and the police forces which enforce their laws, as being violent and oppressive. They also saw this as an unavoidable outcome, and were all the more forceful and violent in their acts as a result. This culminated in the torrid times leading up to the early twentieth century &#8211; a period of incredible anarchistic acts, including the assassination of royalty, government ministers and widespread bombings. Many of these anarchists detested the need to kill to achieve their ends &#8211; to the point where some would not go through with their attempt if innocent bystanders would be hurt. Their angst in the face of a decision to act with violence is a physical force that they had to deal with. </p>
<p>So are random acts of violence a means to an end of just an end in themselves? If a policeman beats up a protester, does that justify your violent retribution against a completely different policeman? What about policewomen? Are they justifiable targets? How about the constable who shuffles the paperwork all day &#8211; are they a justifiable target?</p>
<p>If the police use batons to stop a demonstration &#8211; but don&#8217;t hunt down the protesters in their homes or follow-up with any persecution, does that single act justify random acts of retribution? What about night-club doormen? They are most likely responsible for sorting out the rowdy and untamed, so are all doormen appropriate targets for violence? </p>
<p>Who decides on the level of tit-for-tat? Is a beating worth a shooting? Is a water cannon equal to a knife? It is possible to argue yourself into lethargy but to ignore thinking about these points at all does not give recognition to the huge body of work put down by great activists, writers and thinkers in the anarchy movement.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What role for violence in anarchy? by Anthony Anarchyy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony Anarchyy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 23:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The government has the police who are very violent also so if they&#039;re allowed to be violent, why can&#039;t we?</description>
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